lotsofspace
12-10 04:30 PM
I completely understand the frustration expressed by logiclife.
We either fail to appreciate or choose to ignore the fact that not every one is in the same situation when it comes to GC. For some, it is THE THING. For some it is just Nice to Have and some don't care. If it comes as a by product of being here so be it. Some of more desperate than others ...
Most people around here are educated and know what they are doing. I believe that was their decision and they have every right to make that.
1) I have a friend of mine, he is gainfully employed for his skills and his wife needs to be in this place for next 5 years. So he does not bother as long as his company applies for 10 to 13 year H1 extension (Which they did). Never visits IV, does not really care what happens around here.... I don't blame him.
2) Another friend of mine joined at a junior level and can't wait to get out of here with AC21. Now that he has MBA, wants to move up with AC21 (know, it is not allowed now). I told this person about our omnibus and he contributed.
and other people fall all over the spectrum of interest from apathy to can't live without it.
If I were in logiclife's situation I probably would react the same way, but I am NOT the leader of the org :) :)
I doubt who frequent here would have felt bad about the logiclife's comments, because it was just logic life being logiclife. :)
At the same time I don't think calling some one coward persuaded any one to contribute monetarily , If they have not contributed so far or decided not to. It sure would have released some of the frustration of some active members :)
My Original Peaceful question again:
Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?
Anyone ?
I know there may be a number of people here who don't care about participation. But I also know they are outnumbered by sensible/mature members.
Occasionally administrators here start an emotional post, which is taken highly positively by active followers but not general population. Then there begins a war, Lines are drawn with elephants/horses on both sides.
This place is a complete disaster when it comes to PR.
One Solution - Close this place and stop aggravating people.
Real Solution - Do what is right forge ahead with defined agenda, don't make people ashamed or left out or make snide remarks as leaders/followers or activists.
Keeping a movement alive needs strong and open minded leaders. I think there are plenty of those leaders at immigrationvoice, Logiclife may or may not be one of them, i don't know (never met him or talked to him, neither have the desire), You don't have to make people join the movement, movement is when people follow with their hearts.
Since I am back in "red" after one Logical question on Logiclife's post in three months, I will go back to my exile, and let activists/followers rule this movement.
Peace again..
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
Agreed. But I am not surprised that oldmonk got reds. :(
For all those who want to make it pay site, I guess the core must have thought about it already and make it one if that makes sense.
We either fail to appreciate or choose to ignore the fact that not every one is in the same situation when it comes to GC. For some, it is THE THING. For some it is just Nice to Have and some don't care. If it comes as a by product of being here so be it. Some of more desperate than others ...
Most people around here are educated and know what they are doing. I believe that was their decision and they have every right to make that.
1) I have a friend of mine, he is gainfully employed for his skills and his wife needs to be in this place for next 5 years. So he does not bother as long as his company applies for 10 to 13 year H1 extension (Which they did). Never visits IV, does not really care what happens around here.... I don't blame him.
2) Another friend of mine joined at a junior level and can't wait to get out of here with AC21. Now that he has MBA, wants to move up with AC21 (know, it is not allowed now). I told this person about our omnibus and he contributed.
and other people fall all over the spectrum of interest from apathy to can't live without it.
If I were in logiclife's situation I probably would react the same way, but I am NOT the leader of the org :) :)
I doubt who frequent here would have felt bad about the logiclife's comments, because it was just logic life being logiclife. :)
At the same time I don't think calling some one coward persuaded any one to contribute monetarily , If they have not contributed so far or decided not to. It sure would have released some of the frustration of some active members :)
My Original Peaceful question again:
Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?
Anyone ?
I know there may be a number of people here who don't care about participation. But I also know they are outnumbered by sensible/mature members.
Occasionally administrators here start an emotional post, which is taken highly positively by active followers but not general population. Then there begins a war, Lines are drawn with elephants/horses on both sides.
This place is a complete disaster when it comes to PR.
One Solution - Close this place and stop aggravating people.
Real Solution - Do what is right forge ahead with defined agenda, don't make people ashamed or left out or make snide remarks as leaders/followers or activists.
Keeping a movement alive needs strong and open minded leaders. I think there are plenty of those leaders at immigrationvoice, Logiclife may or may not be one of them, i don't know (never met him or talked to him, neither have the desire), You don't have to make people join the movement, movement is when people follow with their hearts.
Since I am back in "red" after one Logical question on Logiclife's post in three months, I will go back to my exile, and let activists/followers rule this movement.
Peace again..
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
Agreed. But I am not surprised that oldmonk got reds. :(
For all those who want to make it pay site, I guess the core must have thought about it already and make it one if that makes sense.
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07-10 11:28 AM
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NolaIndian32
02-18 01:24 PM
Now y'all got some competition going on, LA will probably never catch CA, but TX better watch out! :)
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gk_2000
03-27 10:21 AM
You came here 6 years ago and applied for your GC only in 2010. Didnt you find an employer who would file one for you. And you also know if your GC gets screwed for some reason, then you are out of the US also.
Looks like something is missing, Dear.
6 years ago, in 2004 (2010 minus 6 years), there was no retrogression. And you didnt apply though you had an option. Very very funny.
Tell me, what are the facts.
This is merely a sampling of how people think when there is no unnatural pressure. If dates are retrogressed, you feel you better apply, whether you are interested or not --just in case. If dates are OK, you feel "let me wait and see if I like it here or not". Just a case of group thinking IMO
Looks like something is missing, Dear.
6 years ago, in 2004 (2010 minus 6 years), there was no retrogression. And you didnt apply though you had an option. Very very funny.
Tell me, what are the facts.
This is merely a sampling of how people think when there is no unnatural pressure. If dates are retrogressed, you feel you better apply, whether you are interested or not --just in case. If dates are OK, you feel "let me wait and see if I like it here or not". Just a case of group thinking IMO
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nyte_crawler
03-14 04:19 PM
Yep it is risky. But it might bring out all the other risks that I took with my current I485 application, which is what I am worried about. Did'nt work for a year and went to school full time working part-time with EAD, worked with 1099 for a year and a half and changed 4 jobs after getting my 140 approved.
wandmaker
03-21 03:23 PM
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf (http://www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Good work! Now, it is gapala's turn to read and understand and come back with the opinion or disagreement.
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf (http://www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Good work! Now, it is gapala's turn to read and understand and come back with the opinion or disagreement.
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vgayalu
07-07 01:47 PM
Just curious, and thinking loud: if there is a limited and reduced number of H1B workers come in, in the long run the number of applicants for permanent residency will be shrinking too (at least EB category). To reduce EB GC applications, and preserve the americanness of the employee-pool, this seems to be a nice and covert trick, at least to me. Let few people come for 6 years, and so fewer may remain as GC holders. Maybe I am missing something here.
When they reduce H1 B why do not you think about reducing immigrant visas like EB based.
When they reduce H1 B why do not you think about reducing immigrant visas like EB based.
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mirage
06-25 07:41 PM
EAD is free only for post July 30-2007 filers. We are their forever cows, they'll milk us as far as they can. Otherwise somebody tell me why 2 year EAD why not 3, why not 2 year AP, why june 30 for 2 years EAD why couldn't they do it with immediate effect or may be 1 week from announcement. They just bought more time to process everything with 1 year
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06-30 09:03 AM
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waiting4gc
07-18 01:58 PM
Now I see why you got banned. What you did not realize is others were not rejoicing anything "AT YOUR EXPENSE". They were just enjoying what was available to them. You are the one who wants to make it a zero sum game i.e. gain for others is loss for you and vice versa.
While others were celebrating what was good for them, you want to rejoice others pain. That is just *sic*. I retract my earlier support for you.
Do I think that its unfair that people (I started my GC in May 04) from 06,07 will clog up queue, yes, but such is life. Can't do much about that can we? So enjoy whatever good is happening. Please remember, what goes around comes around. If you rejoice others unhappiness, you too will soon join them.
Quote from LogicLife's post
'And finally, if you do rejoice at the revisions of July bulletin because that would somehow do justice to you and your other BEC brothers, please rejoice privately, not publicly. Rejoice all you want, if that's what gives you happiness, but send PMs to your BEC friends or do it over the phone. Have a barbeque at your home. Have a conference call and celebrate. '
If all others can rejoice the open of visa filing at our expense publicly, why couldn't we rejoice something that'd bring fairness? Why don't they rejoince in private? You think they have us in mind? I call that BS.
While others were celebrating what was good for them, you want to rejoice others pain. That is just *sic*. I retract my earlier support for you.
Do I think that its unfair that people (I started my GC in May 04) from 06,07 will clog up queue, yes, but such is life. Can't do much about that can we? So enjoy whatever good is happening. Please remember, what goes around comes around. If you rejoice others unhappiness, you too will soon join them.
Quote from LogicLife's post
'And finally, if you do rejoice at the revisions of July bulletin because that would somehow do justice to you and your other BEC brothers, please rejoice privately, not publicly. Rejoice all you want, if that's what gives you happiness, but send PMs to your BEC friends or do it over the phone. Have a barbeque at your home. Have a conference call and celebrate. '
If all others can rejoice the open of visa filing at our expense publicly, why couldn't we rejoice something that'd bring fairness? Why don't they rejoince in private? You think they have us in mind? I call that BS.
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07-24 10:43 AM
I think we can wait till Aug 15th for I-140 receipt and if we don't get that (:( :mad: :confused: ) then we can file I-485 with the mailroom instructions from the FAQ (:) :) )
I don't recomened to wait until Aug 15th...since there may be postal delays/package missings, etc.,...very recently happend to me with UPS overnight (aqfter 3days of investigation - tjhey simply said package is missing)....so guys consider some factor of safety time...i would suggest don't want more than Aug 10th.....
I don't recomened to wait until Aug 15th...since there may be postal delays/package missings, etc.,...very recently happend to me with UPS overnight (aqfter 3days of investigation - tjhey simply said package is missing)....so guys consider some factor of safety time...i would suggest don't want more than Aug 10th.....
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06-10 03:12 PM
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F. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED CATEGORIES
Based on current indications of demand, the best case scenarios for cut-off dates which will be reached by the end of FY-2010 are as follows:
Employment First: Current
Employment Second:
China and India: March or April 2006
Employment Third:
Worldwide: June through September 2004
China: October through December 2003
India: February 2002
Mexico: Unavailable
Philippines: June through September 2004
Employment Fourth:
Worldwide: It may be necessary to establish a cut-off date for September.
Employment Fifth: Current
F. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED CATEGORIES
Based on current indications of demand, the best case scenarios for cut-off dates which will be reached by the end of FY-2010 are as follows:
Employment First: Current
Employment Second:
China and India: March or April 2006
Employment Third:
Worldwide: June through September 2004
China: October through December 2003
India: February 2002
Mexico: Unavailable
Philippines: June through September 2004
Employment Fourth:
Worldwide: It may be necessary to establish a cut-off date for September.
Employment Fifth: Current
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NO_Free_Rider
07-27 01:56 PM
What is your agenda? Didn't you join IV to get your (selfish) GC or for world peace :D
Now, what about offensive messages? How did you get the red dot next to your name :p
Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda. Instead of supporting IV you are creating your own selfish agenda and not listening to IV. I have seen lot of offensive messages by you guys. You guys celebrated when all of us got screwed
I do not support your agenda.
Now, what about offensive messages? How did you get the red dot next to your name :p
Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda. Instead of supporting IV you are creating your own selfish agenda and not listening to IV. I have seen lot of offensive messages by you guys. You guys celebrated when all of us got screwed
I do not support your agenda.
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perm2gc
07-28 05:25 PM
It seems that more H4's want to work in the country which they have entered as dependents and many want to compare it with other countries but did you think what made you to bring to this country other than going to those countries.You want the immigration system to change according to you rather than you changing.If you are so frustated with the system and country better to pack the bags.This country Didn't invite you and promise you.!!!!!
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smisachu
09-20 11:35 AM
I realized the clout that IV has grown when we got the Visa Bulletin reversal. This clout will only get stronger as Logiclife has explained. If you relate to politics in your own countries, the bigger the crowd at a politicians meeting; the bigger his clout. They can hire people to lobby for them and follow them around as a show of strength. Similarly in US if more organizations support a politician and if they can lobby independently for his agenda, it is a show of strength for him.
If you have observed election campaigns, you will see that all the ads are "Paid for" by some third party claiming no direct relation to the politician. This is the support structure in US and now after the rally IV is an organization which can provide such support as a return favor to our agenda being pushed ahead.
For the guys who sat on the sidelines and snickered at us, you have to realize we are the "brightest and the best" and we will not do something for the sake of doing it unless we know what the effects of such actions will be. We always see the big picture so just join us and work for this cause which is critical to all of us.
If you have observed election campaigns, you will see that all the ads are "Paid for" by some third party claiming no direct relation to the politician. This is the support structure in US and now after the rally IV is an organization which can provide such support as a return favor to our agenda being pushed ahead.
For the guys who sat on the sidelines and snickered at us, you have to realize we are the "brightest and the best" and we will not do something for the sake of doing it unless we know what the effects of such actions will be. We always see the big picture so just join us and work for this cause which is critical to all of us.
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07-17 09:55 PM
To apologize, it takes more courage than bashing someone in this forum. But to be honest and speak truth, .. it takes much more than courage than to bluff. I saw some of your post on this forum and you just contradicted them all with this so called “last and final” note.
For now I will vote to remove the ban on your id but its not a bad idea for you to look at yourself and think about what you were doing in this forum for past several days and promise yourself not to repeat the same. Try to be honest about your posts and that would go a long way in this partnership
For now I will vote to remove the ban on your id but its not a bad idea for you to look at yourself and think about what you were doing in this forum for past several days and promise yourself not to repeat the same. Try to be honest about your posts and that would go a long way in this partnership
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waitin_toolong
09-17 04:10 PM
The cutoff dates are listed for individual countries only if they make up more than 7% of total visas for that year. In case of rest of the world the numbers are not impacted by per country limits so they are not listed separately. So all these applications are part of the same pool and not as retrogressed as the listed countries.
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