peacock
09-14 11:18 AM
Sent more email's this morning about the rally to a no of news papers,radio and TV stations including
Washington Business Journal
Washington City Paper
Washington Post
Washington Times
Washington Diplomat
C-SPAN Radio
National Public Radio (NPR)
Radio America
Voice of America
Public Interest
Fox News Channel
Financial Times
New York Observer
New York Times Syndicate
NBC News
Financial Times
Air America Radio
Newsweek ON AIR
RadioNation
Beaver Press
Blue Mountain Panorama
Box Elder News Journal
Deseret Morning News
Eagle Sentinel
FCCTV
WRC (NBC-4)
WTTG (Fox 5)
WUSA (CBS-9)
Pacifica Radio
ADA News & Notes
American Enterprise
American Prospect
American Spectator
Accuracy In Media
Also sent email's to this list of reporters
mcuban@hd.net,
wnelson@hd.net,
nytnews@nytimes.com,
news-tips@nytimes.com,
washington@nytimes.com,
AmericasNewsroom@foxnews.com,
satya.prakash@hindustantimes.com,
pmagazine@hindustantimes.com,
aditya.ghosh@hindustantimes.com,
Fatherjonathan@foxnews.com,
Drmanny@foxnews.com,
Beltway@foxnews.com,
Myword@foxnews.com,
Bigstory-weekend@foxnews.com,
Bigstoryweekend@foxnews.com,
Bullsandbears@foxnews.com,
Cash@foxnews.com,
Cavuto@foxnews.com,
Fncimag@foxnews.com,
Forbes@foxnews.com,
Friends@foxnews.com,
Feedback@foxnews.com,
Jamie@foxnews.com,
Fncspecials@foxnews.com,
FNS@foxnews.com,
Newswatch@foxnews.com,
Foxreport@foxnews.com,
Atlarge@foxnews.com,
Heartland@foxnews.com,
JER@foxnews.com,
Lineup@foxnews.com,
Ontherecord@foxnews.com,
Oreilly@foxnews.com,
Redeye@foxnews.com,
Special@foxnews.com,
Studiob@foxnews.com,
Hemmer@foxnews.com,
Colonelscorner@foxnews.com,
Housecall@foxnews.com,
Hannity@foxnews.com,
Colmes@foxnews.com,
Letters@newsweek.com,
Customer.Care@newsweek.com,
viewerservices@msnbc.com,
today@nbc.com,
wt@nbc.com,
mtp@nbc.com,
abc.news.magazines@abc.com,
[email]letters@msnbc.com
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Washington Business Journal
Washington City Paper
Washington Post
Washington Times
Washington Diplomat
C-SPAN Radio
National Public Radio (NPR)
Radio America
Voice of America
Public Interest
Fox News Channel
Financial Times
New York Observer
New York Times Syndicate
NBC News
Financial Times
Air America Radio
Newsweek ON AIR
RadioNation
Beaver Press
Blue Mountain Panorama
Box Elder News Journal
Deseret Morning News
Eagle Sentinel
FCCTV
WRC (NBC-4)
WTTG (Fox 5)
WUSA (CBS-9)
Pacifica Radio
ADA News & Notes
American Enterprise
American Prospect
American Spectator
Accuracy In Media
Also sent email's to this list of reporters
mcuban@hd.net,
wnelson@hd.net,
nytnews@nytimes.com,
news-tips@nytimes.com,
washington@nytimes.com,
AmericasNewsroom@foxnews.com,
satya.prakash@hindustantimes.com,
pmagazine@hindustantimes.com,
aditya.ghosh@hindustantimes.com,
Fatherjonathan@foxnews.com,
Drmanny@foxnews.com,
Beltway@foxnews.com,
Myword@foxnews.com,
Bigstory-weekend@foxnews.com,
Bigstoryweekend@foxnews.com,
Bullsandbears@foxnews.com,
Cash@foxnews.com,
Cavuto@foxnews.com,
Fncimag@foxnews.com,
Forbes@foxnews.com,
Friends@foxnews.com,
Feedback@foxnews.com,
Jamie@foxnews.com,
Fncspecials@foxnews.com,
FNS@foxnews.com,
Newswatch@foxnews.com,
Foxreport@foxnews.com,
Atlarge@foxnews.com,
Heartland@foxnews.com,
JER@foxnews.com,
Lineup@foxnews.com,
Ontherecord@foxnews.com,
Oreilly@foxnews.com,
Redeye@foxnews.com,
Special@foxnews.com,
Studiob@foxnews.com,
Hemmer@foxnews.com,
Colonelscorner@foxnews.com,
Housecall@foxnews.com,
Hannity@foxnews.com,
Colmes@foxnews.com,
Letters@newsweek.com,
Customer.Care@newsweek.com,
viewerservices@msnbc.com,
today@nbc.com,
wt@nbc.com,
mtp@nbc.com,
abc.news.magazines@abc.com,
[email]letters@msnbc.com
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willgetgc2005
01-03 07:21 PM
truthinspector,
Please stop bashing India or any country for that matter. Although I
am waiting for a GC here in America, I always think India is a fabulous
country. There are merits, de merits in every country. But it is people like you who always look at the negative side (according to you that is ) of India and think US has absolutely no negatives that create the wrong perception about India in peoples minds.
Your negativity stems from your low self esteem and lack of self confidence.
Blame your country/system for everything and try to find an escape elsewhere. If you are capable chances are you will succeed any where (Including in India) like many people have.....
Thanks and I dont need your response.
_________________________________________
GC Cons:
1.You cannot enjoy the company of your parents/relatives.
2.Your wife cannot work.
GC Pros:
1.You and your family will be raised in a pollution free environment.
2.God forbid,if you ever get into an accident the cop would at least write down a complaint.If there is an emergency there would be an ambulance.My father had to go through this unfortunate experience.
3.In India, given the real estate boom , anyone who has land in cities like Mumbai /Pune would rather build a mall or residential complex instead of Schools/Colleges.People are getting jobs now. Have they wondered where their kids will go to school/college? When it comes to getting jobs in India, everyone wants a candidate from a reputed college / university which is usually associated with the number of years the place has been around.
4.If you want to settle outside cities, then you do not have access to the best in education and whatever so called infrastructure is there to offer.
5.Back home, if your kid does not grow up to become a Doctor or Engineer he/she goes so much down in the social hierarchy that it is difficult to imagine.Only careers available are Doctors/Engineers.Last option is to join call center and live a nocturnal life.
5.Infrastructure?
6.The job hierarchies in India are mostly namesake , at least in IT. The moral compass of Indian corporate world is pointing directly,constantly, and unerringly to hell. You will notice a "Sir-jee" system very soon after you start working there.
7.On a last note, with a surge in purchasing power it is immature to declare India a developing/developed nation so soon. That tile is at least 500 years away and we have not started making the ground work yet(the Chinese have).
Please stop bashing India or any country for that matter. Although I
am waiting for a GC here in America, I always think India is a fabulous
country. There are merits, de merits in every country. But it is people like you who always look at the negative side (according to you that is ) of India and think US has absolutely no negatives that create the wrong perception about India in peoples minds.
Your negativity stems from your low self esteem and lack of self confidence.
Blame your country/system for everything and try to find an escape elsewhere. If you are capable chances are you will succeed any where (Including in India) like many people have.....
Thanks and I dont need your response.
_________________________________________
GC Cons:
1.You cannot enjoy the company of your parents/relatives.
2.Your wife cannot work.
GC Pros:
1.You and your family will be raised in a pollution free environment.
2.God forbid,if you ever get into an accident the cop would at least write down a complaint.If there is an emergency there would be an ambulance.My father had to go through this unfortunate experience.
3.In India, given the real estate boom , anyone who has land in cities like Mumbai /Pune would rather build a mall or residential complex instead of Schools/Colleges.People are getting jobs now. Have they wondered where their kids will go to school/college? When it comes to getting jobs in India, everyone wants a candidate from a reputed college / university which is usually associated with the number of years the place has been around.
4.If you want to settle outside cities, then you do not have access to the best in education and whatever so called infrastructure is there to offer.
5.Back home, if your kid does not grow up to become a Doctor or Engineer he/she goes so much down in the social hierarchy that it is difficult to imagine.Only careers available are Doctors/Engineers.Last option is to join call center and live a nocturnal life.
5.Infrastructure?
6.The job hierarchies in India are mostly namesake , at least in IT. The moral compass of Indian corporate world is pointing directly,constantly, and unerringly to hell. You will notice a "Sir-jee" system very soon after you start working there.
7.On a last note, with a surge in purchasing power it is immature to declare India a developing/developed nation so soon. That tile is at least 500 years away and we have not started making the ground work yet(the Chinese have).
test101
07-05 03:54 PM
Please put more details as you call.
Regarding Cantwell:
The represintitve said they recieved couple of calls. I explained my view and how as an RN i'm effected by this. The office said that sentor Cantwell has not issue a statement. I spoke of USCIS, financail and emotional loss. I did say that hunder of thousands are effected and according to WSJ million of dollars has been lost.
The representitve seems intrested. She transferred me to Olia black voice mail that seems to be taking care of this issue and i left a message for with my contact information.
More people need to call and get thier stories through. After all Cantwell was supportive of skilled workers. So far senators office are responding with interest to personal stories and the effect of the USCIS VB.
is that good enough :D... any other detail needed?
Regarding Cantwell:
The represintitve said they recieved couple of calls. I explained my view and how as an RN i'm effected by this. The office said that sentor Cantwell has not issue a statement. I spoke of USCIS, financail and emotional loss. I did say that hunder of thousands are effected and according to WSJ million of dollars has been lost.
The representitve seems intrested. She transferred me to Olia black voice mail that seems to be taking care of this issue and i left a message for with my contact information.
More people need to call and get thier stories through. After all Cantwell was supportive of skilled workers. So far senators office are responding with interest to personal stories and the effect of the USCIS VB.
is that good enough :D... any other detail needed?
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qualified_trash
01-03 03:56 PM
for some it is money, for others it is about taking care of parents etc.
for me it is all about where I would like to live, grow and bring up my child. to me the answer is very clear. while this country is not perfect, no country on this planet is. if a human makes an objective list based on quantifiable pros and cons, the decision is very easy to make.
as for stuff like "I miss my parents" that is not quantifiable and should never figure in the discussion. what is the guarantee that you can return to your home country and live in the same city as you parents do? what happens if your kids don't want the grandparents to interfere in their lives? what happens if you cannot take constant interference from friends and extended family?
my reasons may come across as cold and calculating. however, it is an inhospitable world we live in and it is up to us to provide the best possible cocoon for our immediate family and that is exactly what I intend to do.
for me it is all about where I would like to live, grow and bring up my child. to me the answer is very clear. while this country is not perfect, no country on this planet is. if a human makes an objective list based on quantifiable pros and cons, the decision is very easy to make.
as for stuff like "I miss my parents" that is not quantifiable and should never figure in the discussion. what is the guarantee that you can return to your home country and live in the same city as you parents do? what happens if your kids don't want the grandparents to interfere in their lives? what happens if you cannot take constant interference from friends and extended family?
my reasons may come across as cold and calculating. however, it is an inhospitable world we live in and it is up to us to provide the best possible cocoon for our immediate family and that is exactly what I intend to do.
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IV2007
04-02 11:20 AM
Guys,
I read through all of your posts.
One question I am not clear is:
I am on H1-B. I don't intend to change my status.
I start my LLC & work part time in the LLC on EAD. Is this possible ?
I am not sure if H1 gets invalidated by doing this. If so, the only alternative I found is hire others to do it or open a partnership LLC.
Am I correct ?
I read through all of your posts.
One question I am not clear is:
I am on H1-B. I don't intend to change my status.
I start my LLC & work part time in the LLC on EAD. Is this possible ?
I am not sure if H1 gets invalidated by doing this. If so, the only alternative I found is hire others to do it or open a partnership LLC.
Am I correct ?
skgs2000
12-11 04:10 PM
Hi Pappu and IV seniors,
I will contribute to IV generously(monetory and otherwise) if you help us with the filing of EAD/I-485 for approved 140's. Please do some magic so that it happens.
I will contribute to IV generously(monetory and otherwise) if you help us with the filing of EAD/I-485 for approved 140's. Please do some magic so that it happens.
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gcisadawg
02-10 08:30 PM
I think, gcisadawg, the problem is the structure of the indian society. This is true with westerners too but as much true.
An Indian/asian guy has to earn because he is perceived to be a bread winner. Unless he is properly settled he is not eligible for marriage.
On the other hand, if a girl is not career-oriented she can still get good husbands depending on her personality and so on.
And such girls invariably forfeit the right to send money to their parents. In such cases, one should not expect girl's parents to give her a share in their property. Its all clean.
You have Indian house wives (many of them) but you have fewer house husbands. Even if your wife works, it is supplementary income and not the main.
This is a complex equation and husbands and wives must understand the social structure we live in and adjust with each other.
Well, couple of my friends are "house husbands" now...they got laid off and their wives are still working! :D
Agreed, it is all situation based. As long as one is not forced, a couple can talk between themselves and come to an amicable solution.
An Indian/asian guy has to earn because he is perceived to be a bread winner. Unless he is properly settled he is not eligible for marriage.
On the other hand, if a girl is not career-oriented she can still get good husbands depending on her personality and so on.
And such girls invariably forfeit the right to send money to their parents. In such cases, one should not expect girl's parents to give her a share in their property. Its all clean.
You have Indian house wives (many of them) but you have fewer house husbands. Even if your wife works, it is supplementary income and not the main.
This is a complex equation and husbands and wives must understand the social structure we live in and adjust with each other.
Well, couple of my friends are "house husbands" now...they got laid off and their wives are still working! :D
Agreed, it is all situation based. As long as one is not forced, a couple can talk between themselves and come to an amicable solution.
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gsc999
07-14 08:38 PM
Running total so far $608
Good work. Let keep rolling.
Good work. Let keep rolling.
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immig4me
09-02 08:29 AM
I'm only posting a response cause my response is sad and funny at same time. No one's beat me yet???
Came in Dec 1990
Been on various visas including F1 (grad and undergrad) and H1.
Didn't get to file GC till 2007 unfortunately...
You beat every one hands down... it shows your incredible character if you can look at the situation and find it funny....
Came in 2000
10 years and waiting
Came in Dec 1990
Been on various visas including F1 (grad and undergrad) and H1.
Didn't get to file GC till 2007 unfortunately...
You beat every one hands down... it shows your incredible character if you can look at the situation and find it funny....
Came in 2000
10 years and waiting
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hpandey
07-06 11:04 AM
>> Although 30,000 people are IV members
I beg to differ here. 30k+ plus people have signed up so far, but how many are active now? How many have even logged in IV in last 3 months or even 6 months? I don't see any link to discontinue membership here, so we don't know how many people up signed up and left?
There is no way to know count of "active members". Many IV members have got GC in last 2 years and they have "quitely" left IV and forgotten the struggle by EB based immigrants. How many members stay at IV after getting GC?
Many people believe that by getting EAD they are Temp GC holders and motivation for seeking any benefit is gone.
I am pained to say this, but we are a thankless community.
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Yes you are right also . As I said a lot of people don't care what happens to everyone else as long as their immediate situation becomes okay or they get a GC. That is why illegal-immigrants have a voice - they have money and they have got mass participation from their community - even people who are citizens here or got GC .
As for our EB community - try going to a person who got citizenship or a GC and then hear what you will get. They will either politely decline or start talking about the abuse of the H1 program and things like that. They won't lift a finger to help us.
Well what can we expect from our fellow EB naturalized citizens and GC holders when even we on H1 or in 485 queue won't help ourselves.
Someone mentioned above that IV has 450K in assets and hence no funding issue. I personally don't think that is enough for bring a change like getting visa recapture or other legislation.
I beg to differ here. 30k+ plus people have signed up so far, but how many are active now? How many have even logged in IV in last 3 months or even 6 months? I don't see any link to discontinue membership here, so we don't know how many people up signed up and left?
There is no way to know count of "active members". Many IV members have got GC in last 2 years and they have "quitely" left IV and forgotten the struggle by EB based immigrants. How many members stay at IV after getting GC?
Many people believe that by getting EAD they are Temp GC holders and motivation for seeking any benefit is gone.
I am pained to say this, but we are a thankless community.
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Yes you are right also . As I said a lot of people don't care what happens to everyone else as long as their immediate situation becomes okay or they get a GC. That is why illegal-immigrants have a voice - they have money and they have got mass participation from their community - even people who are citizens here or got GC .
As for our EB community - try going to a person who got citizenship or a GC and then hear what you will get. They will either politely decline or start talking about the abuse of the H1 program and things like that. They won't lift a finger to help us.
Well what can we expect from our fellow EB naturalized citizens and GC holders when even we on H1 or in 485 queue won't help ourselves.
Someone mentioned above that IV has 450K in assets and hence no funding issue. I personally don't think that is enough for bring a change like getting visa recapture or other legislation.
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shukla77
06-11 04:59 PM
Now people are going to use this site to sell mangos, T shirt, skirts, coconuts.... etc ..:D Thats the only thing we needed other than usual bickering..
Anybody wants Indian mangoes?
Anybody wants Indian mangoes?
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jonty_11
12-13 02:04 PM
I think there are many ways to look at it. Doing Free service , yes it is a form of Gandhigiri, but will that cause the lawmakers to recognize us and pass laws in favor o fus..I do not think so.
I think our situation is no different than people in South Africa in Gandhian times. How Gandhi fought for them is by writing and writing and pestering the Authorities to reduce unfair taxes on Indians in SA and to solve other problems they had like cannot ride in the same Trains/cars as Whites etc...., fighting for their rights in a Vocal but Non Voilent - non aggressive approach.
We, in this post , have equated Gandhigiri with - divide ur attention - Go Do MBA- be occupied with something else while u are retrogressed, furthur ur career/skills,,,etc I do not think that is what Gandhigiri is about i.e. doing something for the self, but instead do it for the community. In this case IV is our community and its leaders are doing the right thing for our cause and if we continue to support that by adding members, funds we will do a fair bit of gandhigiri towards our cause.
I think our situation is no different than people in South Africa in Gandhian times. How Gandhi fought for them is by writing and writing and pestering the Authorities to reduce unfair taxes on Indians in SA and to solve other problems they had like cannot ride in the same Trains/cars as Whites etc...., fighting for their rights in a Vocal but Non Voilent - non aggressive approach.
We, in this post , have equated Gandhigiri with - divide ur attention - Go Do MBA- be occupied with something else while u are retrogressed, furthur ur career/skills,,,etc I do not think that is what Gandhigiri is about i.e. doing something for the self, but instead do it for the community. In this case IV is our community and its leaders are doing the right thing for our cause and if we continue to support that by adding members, funds we will do a fair bit of gandhigiri towards our cause.
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LONGGCQUE
04-23 09:52 PM
SGP, It took 3-4 weeks for a co-worker in eb2 to get an approval once labor was filed(excludes Pre activities like ads etc)
Hello.... Anyone there?:confused:
Hello.... Anyone there?:confused:
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GCwaitforever
05-24 09:47 PM
RIR EB3 India
PD oct 28,2001
I haven't received 45 day letter yet. My lawyer faxed twice to find out the status but no reply from PBEC. Is there any way to find out the status?Anybody here whose case is pending from 2001.
Typically they send replies after a month or so. So please be patient and give a month or two. Then you should see some info regarding case status.
PD oct 28,2001
I haven't received 45 day letter yet. My lawyer faxed twice to find out the status but no reply from PBEC. Is there any way to find out the status?Anybody here whose case is pending from 2001.
Typically they send replies after a month or so. So please be patient and give a month or two. Then you should see some info regarding case status.
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ssarathk
09-11 09:06 PM
Thanks a lot for the great efforts IV is putting to resolve this crucial matter which will make "American dream" come true for a lot of people including me.
I will surely attend the DC rally.
Thanks again!
I will surely attend the DC rally.
Thanks again!
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canleo98
08-12 01:00 AM
What BEC? BECs were established in March 2005.
BEC= Backlog Elimination Center, theywere for elimination of backlogs for LC's:o
BEC= Backlog Elimination Center, theywere for elimination of backlogs for LC's:o
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aeroterp
06-12 04:15 PM
In many states, it is possible to renew your DL online. Why do you have to go to the actual DMV to renew? I think you should be able to avoid a lot of your troubles by applying online.
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ak_2006
06-10 02:13 PM
Can you post the link of the official announcement, thanks in advance
http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1213101513448.shtm
http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1213101513448.shtm
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gapala
09-10 10:55 AM
:D I am with you. But [QUOTE=gaz;287130] These also coincide with the centers of tremendous progress and huge purchase power for people. Huge purchasing power of people in india? Please read analysis on page 4. Their PPP is just $3300. GDP is between $700 jump to $2500
Smaller cities also have a hike in prices but nothing comparable. So the average Indian does not really get affected a lot. The average city dweller is either renting by paying a ton of money or is spending a ton of money for a house. Scary thing is either ways they are able to afford it. :D:D:D High rent and High living cost is the effect on average folks
Makes the US salary seem meaningless in comparison(comparing quality of life here and not just money). I am not convinced about this. Actually infrastructure setup in US is way beyond what we can expect in India. That adds to quality of life to great extent.
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Smaller cities also have a hike in prices but nothing comparable. So the average Indian does not really get affected a lot. The average city dweller is either renting by paying a ton of money or is spending a ton of money for a house. Scary thing is either ways they are able to afford it. :D:D:D High rent and High living cost is the effect on average folks
Makes the US salary seem meaningless in comparison(comparing quality of life here and not just money). I am not convinced about this. Actually infrastructure setup in US is way beyond what we can expect in India. That adds to quality of life to great extent.
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ilwaiting
04-25 11:33 AM
Guys,
As long as the legal immigration is part of a illegal immigration reform bill. Its hard to push these "brilliant ideas" before congress or USCIS. Its very unfortunate that Congress doesn't distinguish between legal and illegal immigration.
All are talking about "Comprehensive immigration reform"
but just think, what is really happening in terms of "comprehensiveness" for Legal immigrants? recapture old visa numbers to clear backlogs thats it? Would the multi teir very complex legal immigration process getting any better? Why should a person wait for a PD to become current for 4+ years when DOL(labor Dept certified that there is a requirement for the job?).
Why are we calling it "comprehensive" then? give some thought about it.
Thanks
As long as the legal immigration is part of a illegal immigration reform bill. Its hard to push these "brilliant ideas" before congress or USCIS. Its very unfortunate that Congress doesn't distinguish between legal and illegal immigration.
All are talking about "Comprehensive immigration reform"
but just think, what is really happening in terms of "comprehensiveness" for Legal immigrants? recapture old visa numbers to clear backlogs thats it? Would the multi teir very complex legal immigration process getting any better? Why should a person wait for a PD to become current for 4+ years when DOL(labor Dept certified that there is a requirement for the job?).
Why are we calling it "comprehensive" then? give some thought about it.
Thanks
kondur_007
12-16 11:04 AM
Wishful thinking aside - realistically speaking, it's zilch. As USCIS seems to have predicted, even with spillover implemented the PD isn't moving to 2006 any time soon.
jazz
I have been intending to post this for a while: I still have major doubts on the predictions made by DOS. We all are grateful to them to at least do an effort to provide such predictions, but things don't add up.
It is everyone's understanding that these predictions are based on the information about "preadjudicated applications" from USCIS. Now if you look at the total number of preadjudicated applications from what USCIS has published, it seems that PD (for EB2 India) will move to at least to 2007 if not 2008 by the end of fiscal year 2010. There are no new 485 filings (except for EB1 and EB2 ROW) and unless there is a "HUGE" increase in these categories, there is no other way to explain the basis for these predictions.
Someone else mentioned in this thread about the large number of filings in 2005 due to PERM, but remember, this should already be accounted for in USCIS's preadjudicated numbers.
So either these DOS predictions are some form of scare technique, or too much conservative estimate (so as not to disappoint people) or there is a missing piece of information that we have no clue about.
In any case, I do not claim to be a "better predictor" than DOS; but reality is that all these are pedictions and we have to wait till July-Sept 2010 to find out the truth.
Hoping for the best....:)
jazz
I have been intending to post this for a while: I still have major doubts on the predictions made by DOS. We all are grateful to them to at least do an effort to provide such predictions, but things don't add up.
It is everyone's understanding that these predictions are based on the information about "preadjudicated applications" from USCIS. Now if you look at the total number of preadjudicated applications from what USCIS has published, it seems that PD (for EB2 India) will move to at least to 2007 if not 2008 by the end of fiscal year 2010. There are no new 485 filings (except for EB1 and EB2 ROW) and unless there is a "HUGE" increase in these categories, there is no other way to explain the basis for these predictions.
Someone else mentioned in this thread about the large number of filings in 2005 due to PERM, but remember, this should already be accounted for in USCIS's preadjudicated numbers.
So either these DOS predictions are some form of scare technique, or too much conservative estimate (so as not to disappoint people) or there is a missing piece of information that we have no clue about.
In any case, I do not claim to be a "better predictor" than DOS; but reality is that all these are pedictions and we have to wait till July-Sept 2010 to find out the truth.
Hoping for the best....:)
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